Wednesday, April 30, 2008

How FLDS Women are Dealing with the Nazis

Posted by John Burke on Apr 30, 2008 12:59

The FLDS mothers caught-on quickly to what the Texas Nazi party was doing and are giving them the Warsaw Ghetto treatment, such as they can without weapons.

CPS Commissioner Carey Cockerell is complaining, now that the oppressed women were liberated, that "the investigation has been difficult because members of the church have refused to cooperate." In addition, the women began "a coordinated effort to stymie investigators, coaching their children to not answer questions."

One way to confuse a Nazi is to avoid the cheap trick of asking a Christian a question--and real Christians cannot lie--and expecting them to rat on each other. That's an old Baptist trick. The women however, took their lesson from Rahab the harlot in Jericho whom god was pleased with, and Cockerell "said the women and children would gather into apparent family units, with the children referring to several women as their mother, then the ''women switched children in these family units ... making it difficult.

When asked, women and children would change their names and ages," he said." That is waging spiritual war with more than childish Assembly of God fantasies of heroism.

The entire matter has become a public relations battle to prevail over the fleshly minds of the more than 10,000 churches in the US. The two latest tactics of the Nazis is to have published, 1) that 60% of the wives actually had babies; and 2) that some of the rougher children occasionally got hurt--is abuse.

As of today, no public school girl and her illegitimate baby has been arrested, because the higher standard that "children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult," only applies to religious girls living a relatively orderly life, and not to the "Sluttier-younger" public school "hoes".

http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9106612?source=rss

Another Church Raid, More Children Kidnapped

Apr 30, 2008 10:35

Using the success of the Eldorado raid, and the hostility between churches as justification, another church has been raided and four children kidnapped.

This time it was The Lord Our Righteousness Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico that State Children, Youth and Families kidnapped because of "allegations of inappropriate contact between minors and the adult leader," which at this time seems to mean polygamy.

Wayne Bent, known in the church as Michael Travesser, said the children were kidnapped by the state, which is a capitol offense under Torah.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_9105903?source=most_emailed

FLDS Crimes Against the State

Apr 30, 2008 08:09

Homeschoolers may rejoice that their case is going to court, but their joy will be short lived once the full repercussions of the Eldorado raid permeate the entire bureaucracy of every state.

The first sin of Texas was using an assault force to form a perimeter around a church kibbutz without probable cause. Let's ignore Texas' bill of attainder and ex-post facto.

A semi-literate Obama delegate from Colorado Springs was put up to making a phony call to a hot line in San Angelo about a kibbutz in Eldorado, by some large Colorado Springs anti-polygamy ministries! The fictitious person, of course, could not be produced and a wicked judge gave them a second warrant to search for "evidence of other crimes." Ignore that the constitution requires those crimes and places to be specified also.

What were the "other crimes?" "The "evidence" consists of the community itself and its religious teachings, which dictate that girls look upon marriage and child-bearing as the highest calling of their existence!" Something that is common "teaching" in most evangelical churches, who also were highly supportive of the raid.

The women initially had no intention of surrendering their children--the wisdom of which became evident once they and their children were arrested--but the men refused to fight, and ordered their wives to surrender.

The sins of the state ought to terrify the homeschoolers: The second sin is what is called, the "Cultural Competency" evaluation used by CPS. The test essentially measures how corrupt your children have become by being exposed to today's "culture." Specifically, they do not care about your 13 year old daughter being impregnated by her 13 year old boyfriend, but whether they have become distrustful of the state, have exclusive religious beliefs, reject the prevailing "culture" and hold themselves separate from their licentious peers. On the basis of that test, they can be removed from their parents forever.

A third sin of the state was their judgment of the homeschoolers themselves, insisting that more regulation and oversight is required to prevent another kibbutz from developing a separate lifestyle.

And finally, when the women realized their predicament was hopeless, they were forbidden to invoke imprecatory prayer by the state. All prayers were supervised, meaning approved by the state.

The lives of the FLDS women were far more commendable than Evangelical Free churches for example, where their main concern is abortion and whose lives are indistinct from society. The FLDS women dressed "second coming", homeschooled their children, taught their children the faith, prayed and sang hymns twice a day, did not feed their family GM food, and were capable of independent thought from an early age. Let's see a Community Church do all of that.

The sin of the evangelicals and Catholics in this matter is biblical and political, whereas the sin of the FLDS is not biblical but denominational and political. They were too independent for the state to permit them to raise another generation of potential rebels against the tyranny of the state. But in so doing, their only hope now is to completely assimilate them and corrupt them, because the boys will remember and wait.

May it not be as long that just as "Solomon tried to kill Jeroboam, but Jeroboam fled to Egypt... they sent for Jeroboam, and he and the whole assembly of Israel went to Rehoboam..."

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2008/04/real-cult-menace-part-one-waco-in-slow.html

POLYGAMY FEDERALIZED: Reid and Shurtleff want DHS task force...
CHURCH RAID: Albuquerque children abducted in another church raid...
Federal Reserve cuts key interest rate by quarter-point...
MORE CASH NEEDED: Bankrupt CITIGROUP to sell $4.5 billion in stock...
Texas arrests newborn from kidnapped woman...
Firefighters battle blazes in Nevada, Arizona and California
6 tornadoes destroyed 200 houses in Virginia...
Disappearing now: $6 trillion in housing wealth...


More destroyed houses coming soon

"If they verify their true age, then they forfeit their parental rights"...
Floor collapses under Hamas supporting church...
...Mennonites using divestment pressure on Israel...
Rice: Hamas Terrorists are Iran's 'Proxy Warriors'
M 2.8 quake in Colorado...
Wednesday is Tenth Day of Counting of Omer
'Parents have a protected liberty interest to direct the education of their children'
Czar Nicholas II, RIP

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

The Political Pariah, the Messiah Visits Virginia

Apr 29, 2008 08:17

Immediately following the White House press conference on Monday April 28, 2008 there was a series of short but violent tornadoes in Virginia.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said, at about 1:38 P.M. EDT, regarding the prior Bush/Abbas meeting that "Both reaffirmed their commitment to continuing to work together to help define a Palestinian state by the end of this year. And Prime Minister Olmert has said the same."

This is the sort of statement that always provokes the Messiah, and major disaster follows, Perino said, "The Palestinian people are assured that the president is committed to helping them establish their own state... he has followed through on that commitment, not just personally, but also through sending very high-level people there, such as Secretary Rice."

But they were not finished, Perino began addressing the house of the Messiah on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem which is overlooked from the Mount of Olives, and said, "There's a lot of deep-seated history that has to be addressed if they're going to define a state by the end of the year. And we know how much hard work there is to be done and that's one of the reasons that the President is going back to the region."

The Political Pariah the Messiah visited again and "At least 200 people were injured Monday as severe storms swept through central and southeastern Virginia." A small town dominated by Baptists was the first to be visited. "The first tornado touched down around 1 p.m. in Brunswick County, said Mike Rusnak, a weather service meteorologist in Wakefield. The second struck Colonial Heights around 3:40 p.m., he said."

The significance of Virginia is that "The Raiders of the Lost Sect," in Eldorado are primarily Baptist, and this is Baptist territory with Virginia Beach not too far away. Though warned, the storms did not enter Maryland's "Charles and Prince George's counties but were soon canceled as the storms weakened," as they neared DC.

By 2:52 PM in Virginia, "radar showed a line of severe thunderstorms extending from seven miles north of Brooklyn Park to Londontowne and moving east at 21 mph," and just as quickly, "The thunderstorm moved out of the area before 3:20 p.m., and the warning was canceled."

The primary Virginia targets were "Suffolk, Colonial Heights and Brunswick County," that resulted in over "200 [that] were injured in Suffolk. At least 18 others were injured when the storm hit Colonial Heights... Route 10 and Route 58 are completely shut down."

"Gov. Timothy M. Kaine declared a state of emergency for areas of southeastern Virginia damaged by apparent tornadoes."

Witnesses said that "It was around 3:45 P.M. Monday, when Jennifer, who works at a nearby physical therapy office in Colonial Heights saw rain. Then, she saw flying debris -- rooftops and gutters." Another described the Messiah's roar when he said, "I hate to say it sounded like a train, but that's the truth." Other witnesses said, "Cars were pushed around like toys, and several were picked up and carried by the tornado."

Although all severe storms produce dislocation, the images were similar to Eldorado again. In Driver, commutable to Virginia Beach, "Parents of children at Liberty Baptist Pre-School went to the Farm Fresh parking lot on North Main Street to pick up their children Monday evening per the request of Lt. George."

Like the women in Eldorado, "Residents of some of the hardest hit neighborhoods in this town outside Norfolk were forced to evacuate their homes, with buses taking them to nearby shelters... The evacuation was mandatory for anyone whose home suffered damage, or who lives adjacent to a damaged home."

Additional Eldorado similarity was that "police enacted and enforced an 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. curfew in those two neighborhoods and Driver," which of course mirrors the over 200 armed men who "guarded" the 130 mothers of over 400 children in the San Angelo Coliseum.

Another "tornado came ashore on Pier 2 at Naval Station Norfolk." Additional consequences were that "About 18,000 Virginia Dominion Power customers were without service, mostly in the Northern Neck... in Hampton Roads and surrounding areas."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080428-4.html

http://wrc.weatherplus.com/weathernews/16036406/detail.html?dl=headlineclick

http://www.nbc12.com/news/state/18339574.html

http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_042808_wx_damage.abc5c485.html?npc

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=8239234

http://www.nbc4.com/news/16036406/detail.html?rss=dc&psp=news

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0408/515199.html

Monday, April 28, 2008


Bush to visit Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt
Report: Pressure for Ceasefire Before Bush Visit
Barak Tells Blair He Will Take Down Shechem Checkpoint
Israel to remove key checkpoint near Nablus
53 married women with children kidnapped from their homes...
One reported dead and 200 injured in Virginia tornado
America's Sderot, today...

Hundreds injured by violent weather
3 tornadoes rip through Virginia, hundreds of people hurt
One Killed, Hundreds Hurt by Tornado in VA
Twister reported in Gloucester
3 Tornadoes Confirmed In Central, SE Virginia
Witnesses: Tornado hits Cleveland Co.

President Bush/President Gog

Hail storm in Ohio...
16 hours, 35 earthquakes have rocked Reno ...
More quakes in Nevada: M 2.5...
4.2...
Blair/UK Pressures Israel for More 'Good Will' Measures...
Terrorist Rockets Hit Near Ashkelon; No Injuries..,.
Bush tells Abbas, not quite 1967 borders, 'Upset and Disappointed''...
FLDS Raiders used Swinton under 3rd party direction...
"If you're a member of this religious group, then you're not allowed to have children"...
Motive of latest CPS move: get the kids to "rat" on their parents...
AUDIO: The Pharaoh Conspiracy, George Bush
Next week, Pharaoh Bush will be coming to Israel

Friday, April 25, 2008

Homeschooled = Terrorist

"Cultural Competencies" tip sheet prepared for Texas officials working with the stolen FLDS children warned that members of that sect would be (in the Tribune's paraphrase) "fearful, self-destructive and distrustful of government."

So here is the quote that caught my eye in the Houston Chronicle story, which raised questions about the quality of the education FLDS children receive because they are homeschooled and the possibility that problems in the group might have been caught sooner if there was more oversight of the Texas homeschool system


Another caravan: 7 buses, 4 DPS cruisers, 3 ambulances, and white van...
Rice returns to Israel May 1-5 ...
More earthquakekes: 2.8, Nevada; 4.4, south of Alaska; 3.7, Illinois; 2.5, Nevada
Bush Promised Abbas New Arab State Top Priority...
U.S. Denies It Okayed Housing in Judea and Samaria...
White House Confirms Israel Bombed Nuke Site...
Bush's SPP "Treason"...
NOONAN: Even Texas Turns On Bush...
EXODUS II: Giant tornado of bees in Florida...


Resisting the tyranny of the state alone

The Tribune's blog on the plural life
FLDS imprecatory prayers for death of Utah Atty. Gen. Shurtleff ...
FLDS: 127 Mothers, children separated, 260 children left...
Austin tyrants: Ex-post facto... bill of attainder...
Appeals court reject mothers' plea...
Protesters at NBA game protest treatment of FLDS mothers in Texas...
Shurtleff another "Conservative" on anti-polygamy crusade, persecuting FLDS...
Friday is Fifth Day of Counting of Omer
6 M3+ quakes in Nevada since Thursday...
Fire in Banias Reserve; None Hurt..,.
Oregon wants to split...

Eldorado Expulsion Gallery
America's Gush Katif










Thursday, April 24, 2008

How Pagans and Protestants View the Religious

Apr 25, 2008 07:30

This is an example of how pagans and State Churches view the religious who follow biblical instruction to sanctify their lives, which means to live separate from the norms of prevailing society and to not conform to this world, which means the same thing.

State churches do not subscribe to this view, but rather try to make the seeker comfortable, and become all things that pagans could hope for. They are under no law and unlike the Black Brigade that rebelled against the lawful colonial government, not only refuse to disobey any law, but regard such disobedience by others as a capital offence. Their righteousness exceeds that of god and they regard themselves as holy merely by thinking biblical thoughts and following the practices of the health-nuts.

As a rule the average Christian and Jew of any denomination is biblically illiterate and obtains his understanding by divining what "his" god would do. Consequently, the Law holds a position inferior to denominational and rabbinic tradition, or church administrative documents even though their rabbi told them that he did not intend to nullify the Law and whom the Sanhedrin determined was innocent in that regard.

The Evangelicals cannot keep their children in the faith and there is a reason for it. The State Churches are no different than secular organizations, and the members live no differently than the people around them. Their Christian life and spiritual warfare, is purely imaginary and ineffective to accomplish any purpose whatever.

Here is how the pagan and State Christian view the religious:

Eldorado Children Discussed as if they were Muslims


"Many of the children have seen little or no television. They have been essentially home-schooled all their lives. Most were raised on garden-grown vegetables and twice-daily prayers with family. They frolic in long dresses and buttoned-up shirts from another century.

"There's going to be problems," said Susan Hays, who represents a toddler in the custody case. "They are a throwback to the 19th century in how they dress and how they behave."

"We recognize it's critical that these children not be exposed to mainstream culture too quickly or other things that would hinder their success... We're not trying to change them."


CPS abductors

FLDS Experiences Evangelical-Speak

Apr 25, 2008 07:28

Now let me see if I understand all this.

1. The FLDS teach their children that the outside world is bad and that other religions are gonna persecute them.
2. They wake up one morning and find guns pointed at them and their mothers.
3. They are forced onto buses with First Baptist Church on them.
4. They are move around four times.
5. They are separated from their parents and some of their siblings.
6. They are relocated to Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran etc. homes.
7. They are taught in these homes school/religion
8. Everything they experience tells them their parents have taught them the truth.

Quake shakes downtown Reno...
Map/Details...

Buses moving FLDS women and children South from San Angelo...
...heavy armed escort, up to 60 cars in caravan...
14 going to Presbyterian Childrens Home in Waxahachie...
"Do unto others as you'd like done unto yourself"...
Parts Of Texas Raked By Severe Storms Wednesday ....
Olmert to Consider Voluntary Evacuation Bill for Judea and Samaria...
... would bribe residents to move...


Expelled women and children shuttled to avoid rescue

Eldorado Raid Links to Colorado Springs Ministries

Swinton: used multiple shelters
...had a "back line" no-ID number
...had "tons of material on the FLDS (in the search of Swinton's home)"
...said, 'If you rescue me, and I get out of here, do you think the black people will hurt me?' "

  1. Alias: Dana Anderson: Dana Anderson, MFT, Reno, NV?
  2. New Life Church was founded in 1984 by Ted Haggard: resigned or was removed from all of his leadership positions after allegations of homosexual sex and drug abuse were made by Mike Jones, a former prostitute.
  3. New Life Church, along with Focus on the Family, established Colorado Springs as a conservative evangelical center in the 1990s
  4. orientation with association and support of organizations such as YWAM
  5. family shelter called in San Angelo, not Eldorado
Rozita Swinton... ...has MPD does not explain

New Life, YWAM and Focus on the Family

Colorado Springs, New Life church, and YWAM shooting
Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church
Focus on the Family employed New Lifers?
New Life hosted conference with Dobson as speaker
Phoenix First Assembly of God, is led by the Rev. Tommy Barnett, home of Flora Jessop
Focus on Family is an anti-polygamy ministry
PLEADING: "SOS: Mothers separated. Help."
Eldorado rescue raid suggested several times but still no action...
FLDS arrest warrant another fake, no cause...
Eldorado kids dispersed, to be culturally assimilated...
Austin Children's Shelter to obtain some of Elodorado children...
NWS: tornado struck Allen, McKinney, Texas...
Israel to surrender the Golan confirmed...
Abbas to appeals for more US pressure on Israel to surrender house of god...
... and DHS arrest Jew on 20 year old charges...
US house sales at 16 year low...
Wildfire burning near Savion...

Wednesday, April 23, 2008

The Hal Turner Speech in DC

Apr 24, 2008 07:35

Hal Turner made a short speech on Saturday, April 19, 2008 at the US Capitol about illegal immigration and the economic collapse of the US. The plan that the Aryans have is simple: if the dollar completely collapses they will return to DC armed and "clean house"; if congress does not address illegal immigration, they will simply show up in every major city simultaneously, knowing that the Left will riot and at first attack the Nazis until the government arrives, and then they attack the government, rendering the local government inoperative.

Turner made the observation that politicians know that regardless of what they do, the average person will do nothing except "vote" and the politicians do not care. They prefer peaceful change, but quote Hamilton on the subject of using arms to compel the change. He reminded congress, that should they betray Americans, there is no other recourse except self defense, and that the government can be overthrown.

Eldorado Raid to Create New Federal Laws

Apr 24, 2008 07:31

The raid in Eldorado, Texas that abducted over 400 children and 130 mothers from their self sufficient, homeschooling kibbutz has incited tremendous acrimony between the State Churches and religious people that has reached Washington.

The precedents unleashed are causing dread among the religious, and righteous glee among the state Christians, that was expressed best by one exchange between the religious who cited biblical history as a precedent for girls to marry (Mary at 13), and a the State Christian who answered: "This is one of the most ridiculous posts I've seen yet. No law against it existed back in them bible days! But now the laws are on the books, so get over it...IT'S CHILD ABUSE!"

We agree with the answer: That is the essence of our repeated and ignored admonitions to the antinomian pastors, that they have placed government above Torah and then answer, "we are not under law", meaning god's Law, and neither is their government.

The evils that they have unleashed are: The requirement of genetic proof of parentage; the requirement of homeschool inspection and curriculum approval; the complete loss of the fourth amendment; mandatory birth certificates; mandatory child social security numbers; religious instruction approval; and to make imprecatory prayer a terroristic activity.

The new laws will be federal and Mormon Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has already requested DOJ to "review federal efforts to combat child abuse and criminal activity in polygamous communities."

This is an entirely a denominational dispute between the State Churches and the religious that has nothing to do with a dead rabbi named Jesus, whose mother was 14 and whose father was between 40 and 90 depending on denomination.

The State Christian was correct, there were no laws prohibiting a girl to marry, and now there are. The government sinned, not the girls or their husbands either then or now.

The rage of the fire that the tyrants in Austin ignited has not begun, but the consequences will be cruel.

The mothers were forbidden to pray unsupervised; the definition of child abuse was religious teaching contrary to law; and the children were dispersed to break down their fellowship and to begin the process of forced secularization and religious de-indoctrination. Even the "ministries" that are appointed to receive the children are practically speaking secular, and are preparing a shock pop culture for their arrival. Thus, sanctification is not an activity that State Churches engage in, and will not tolerate from others.

The Eldorado women were impressive compared to the State Church women who are noted more for their gossip than holiness. The "funny clothing" they wear is the Eldorado women's expression of patient waiting for the second coming of Moshiach Ben-Yoseph, but for their sake, may he arise as Moshiach Ben-David.

The tyrants are never content to let anyone live a separate life, and "some polygamists have isolated themselves by setting up tightly controlled towns." Like Randy Weaver, they will follow them to the remotest parts of the earth to stamp out a civil sin. Even if they kill every man, woman, and child, as they attempted to do in another bastion of State Churches, Waco, Texas.

We see that the Statists will permit no peace with them and they have control of "government"; then there is no recourse except to appeal to Jerusalem for judgment. To the rabbi who said, "I will never blot out his name from the book of life," we ask "May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous."

http://gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/21/breaking-newsdna-testing-starts-as-attorneys-to/#c45681

http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9026403

http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9027768?source=rss

Psalm 69:28, Revelation 3:5

Sen. Reid (D-NV, Mormon) ask DOJ/DHS to federalize polygamy...
WAL-MART's SAM'S CLUB limiting sales of rice...
...flashback: Gush Katif expellees without jobs, homes, or food...

Mormons refuse state request to monitor prayers of Eldorado expellees...
... State allows women to pray twice a day with CPS monitors...
No dispersion of children today: weather...
Fire crews fight dozens of fires near Jerusalem ...
Storm stones Baton Rouge with hail...


Eldorado children to be secularized

Grocery Shoppers In Silicon Valley Asked To Limit Rice Purchases...
WSJ: Time for Americans to start stockpiling food...
US Food hoarding and speculation has already begun...
American Jews Face Matzo Crunch...
US Envoy Joins Team in Blair's PA Office
Forest Fires Near Jerusalem...
Audio: Conquer Your Taskmaster - Passover Special
How to secure a Kibbutz against Texas State Hamas
Rebuilding Homesh after expulsion and destruction by the state...

Activity in San Angelo Coliseum "brisk"...
...more buses arrive to disperse children...
114 Eldorado children dispersed to Harris, Montgomery and Brazoria counties...
... being rehabilitated from religion...
Mothers resisting, do not trust the state...
Homeschoolers the next target of CPS...

Locations of Some of the Expellees
  • Kidz Harbor ministry about two miles from Liverpool
  • Arrow Child and Family Ministries near Porter in Montgomery County
  • Alvin public schools
  • Boys and Girls Country, near Hockley, about 35 miles northwest of Houston
  • ... cited for failing to promptly report sexual abuse
  • all paid for with federal money
Web bots summer prediction: extreme summer heat, no electricity

Monday, April 21, 2008

Carter urges Hamas to take House of God...
...and US housing crisis deepens...
...and money crisis send Euro to record high over $1.60...
San Angelo Coliseum locked down as buses assemble on grounds...
Mothers report that CPS will not let them pray without being monitored....
...State relents, uses other denomination to supervise prayers!...
Women mocked for holiness and dressing for 2nd coming...



Arabia and State: Love at first sight

Independent minded boys moved 400 miles, represented a threat...
All children being photographed, finger and DNA printed...
50 days of Counting the Omer, also concludes the DNA registry of the children...
CPS using DNA test used to determine geneology...
Eldorado moms ask to stay with babies...
Nephilim spotted over Phoenix, home of Flora Jessop, troubler of Elodorado...
...also spotted over Florida...
4 lights are identical to Kokomo...
Lee Iacocca: we've had enough...
Pastor Carter re-negotiates seceding of Jerusalem's House of God...
Bush to push MEFTA with Jordanian King and Abbas...
North American Union Rulers meet in New Orleans...
No Child Left Behind Law: the end of homeschoolers...
Food rationing to retailers has already begun: matza in short supply across U.S...
Hamas (PA) to request $1.5 Billion from central banks...
UN Forces Backed Down From Hizbullah Gun Bust

The Complete Passover Holiday Page!
Faithful March around Temple Mount After Priestly Blessing...


Eldorado Expulsion Gallery
America's Gush Katif

Gush Katif Expellees Mark 1000 Days Since Expulsion




A Weak Defense of Texas Kids Assures More Conflict

Apr 21, 2008 08:19

After weeks of standing by the side and watching the lives of over 600 people destroyed by unconstitutional and illegal use of state power, Joseph Farah finally had to admit that something was wrong.

That's pretty weak considering the principles involved will almost guarantee future conflict that may lead to violence, the bane of Joseph.

We understand the cause is religious: that State Christians cannot--ever conceive of a legitimate activity apart from the state. We reminded the state churches that there is no Torah prohibiting polygamy and that there are Laws regarding the conjugal rights of subsequent wives. Not enough. The state churches always without exception go contrary to Law and have deprived these women of those rights by support of the state who committed a capital felony under Torah when they abducted the children.

We maintain that there necessarily will be a Second Reformation, a second Maccabean revolt, from these state churches that expect us to comply with every "law" and assimilate into secular society. Indeed, it is the CPS who charged that the commune did not assimilate by homeschooling, and teaching that marriage was something to be done.

Compare to state churches: they subscribe wholly to public secular schools, and teach their daughters to become table servants and cashiers. The object of their teaching is "make money".

The minds of the state Christians are hostile to any way of life except their own despite their being told not to cause offense with those whose conscious is "weak". We say that with respect to the state Christians, who are right in their own eyes. And thus it is in every area of life, that the Baptists, Assemblies of God, the Free, the Pentecostals, and the Presbyterians and Methodists, to say nothing of the depraved Catholic pastors, turn a hostile eye to every one that they regard as sinning except one--the state.

No one should regard pastors as bible scholars. They are not and make jokes about the seminaries which they are products of, as being "cemeteries," and so they are. Little if any of their "teaching" conforms to the bible: it's a big deal if they even quote a single verse, and watch out if it's a paragraph--you know that he has no idea what he is speaking about. To summarize their sin: A Greek translator, Spiros Zodhiates once said, the English bible is good enough to be saved by, but not good enough for any in-depth study. The same applies to the pastors.

The consequences of the state are thus: As a result of compulsory DNA testing, the holy state will require proof of child ownership, meaning registration as if they were a car; that also means the end of Mid-wives, homeschooling, and any isolated lifestyle. Homeschoolers will be registered and monitored lest they teach abuses like "marriage" and not complying with public policy. It will be illegal to not apply for a social security number at birth--child registration, part 2. The premise registration scheme that DOA fumbled will return through DHS and home inspection will be required lest the environment is "abusive" and also because there may be weapons of mass destruction on the premise like propane tanks.

These are just some of the principles that the incompetent conservative Christians have unleashed.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61971

Friday, April 18, 2008

Russian Intelligence on the Illinois "Earthquakes/Meteors"

Apr 18, 2008 17:50

The first incident was about meteors which were seen over Indiana but did not behave like meteors, and the Hawk's backside report that fighters had been scrambled to intercept them. A day later comes the quake report which FSB reports as another (a second B-52) incident resulting in the explosion.

"So powerful was the explosion reported from this downed American Nuclear Bomber that Western propaganda media sources are reporting the effects of a 5.2 to 5.4 magnitude earthquake in that region, but to which the most accurate description of a nuclear type blast was reported by the Bloomberg News Service and who stated in their article: "You could hear a roaring sound and the whole motel shook, waking up the guests,'' Vibha Ambelal, manager of the Super 8 Motel in Mount Carmel, Illinois, near the epicenter, said in a telephone interview." Quakes do not roar, and quake explosions are momentary.

The full Russian report follows:

Reports from 3rd Army Headquarters of the Russian Space Command, located in Solnechnogorsk (Moscow oblast), are reporting today that a ‘nuclear fueled’ explosion has occurred in the United States region of Illinois after the downing of an American B-52 Bomber by, presumed, other elements of the US Air Force operating in that region.

So powerful was the explosion reported from this downed American Nuclear Bomber that Western propaganda media sources are reporting the effects of a 5.2 to 5.4 magnitude earthquake in that region, but to which the most accurate description of a nuclear type blast was reported by the Bloomberg News Service and who stated in their article: "You could hear a roaring sound and the whole motel shook, waking up the guests,'' Vibha Ambelal, manager of the Super 8 Motel in Mount Carmel, Illinois, near the epicenter, said in a telephone interview."

These reports further state that this was the second attempt by a US B-52 Nuclear Bomber to penetrate the North American Command Air Defenses surrounding the dissident United States Scott Air Force Base, located in Illinois, from which these aircraft seeking to bomb Iranian atomic facilities are based.

On Tuesday, April 15th, American citizens to the Indiana region immediately east of Illinois reported numerous ‘booms’ and ‘flashes’ in their night skies which some attributed to fireball meteorites crashing into the atmosphere, but which the United States Air Force reported was caused by F-16 jet fighters ‘sonic booms’ and their use of ‘military flares’.

These reports, however, state that this April 15th incident turned back the first abortive attempt by dissident American Forces to secret their plundered nuclear weapons out of that country for their intended use against Iran.

The ‘trigger’ to these latest desperate attempts to embroil the World in Total War arose from the US Defense Secretaries ordering of a full accounting of all American Nuclear Weapons on March 28th after the discovery of that an unspecified number of them were ‘missing’.

The first attempt to use these ‘missing’ nuclear weapons against Iran we had previously reported on in our April 5th report titled "US Nuclear B-1 Bomber On Iran ‘Attack Run’ Shot Down" and which occurred in the Middle Eastern Nation of Qatar.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman further report that the American War Leaders were warned this past week by the British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, and by Pope Benedict XVI, both of whom traveled to the United States this week, against the attempts by the US to escalate their conflicts into another World War, but which by these latest events these War Leaders appear not to have listened to.

As we have previously reported, the United States believes it has no option other than Total World War as their economy continues imploding while at the same time fuel prices are rising to catastrophic levels and more food riots are being reported the World over, all of which when combined signal the collapse of the American Empire on a scale not seen in since the collapse of the former Soviet Union on June 12, 1990.

It remains, without doubt, that the people living within the United States will not be allowed to know the full evidence of these events, and their imminent destruction, except by the means of dissident sources of information such as ours. But, and most strangely, the New York Times, and a publication not known for the reporting of dissident news, appears to have changed its course with its April 6th article titled "Duck and Cover: It’s the New Survivalism", and which said:

"THE traditional face of survivalism is that of a shaggy loner in camouflage, holed up in a cabin in the wilderness and surrounded by cases of canned goods and ammunition.

It is not that of Barton M. Biggs, the former chief global strategist at Morgan Stanley. Yet in Mr. Biggs’s new book, “Wealth, War and Wisdom,” he says people should “assume the possibility of a breakdown of the civilized infrastructure.”

“Your safe haven must be self-sufficient and capable of growing some kind of food,” Mr. Biggs writes. “It should be well-stocked with seed, fertilizer, canned food, wine, medicine, clothes, etc. Think Swiss Family Robinson. Even in America and Europe there could be moments of riot and rebellion when law and order temporarily completely breaks down.”

Survivalism, it seems, is not just for survivalists anymore."

This advice by the New York Times that the time has begun for Americans to begin their preparations for survival echo those of the giant US Banking concern Wells Fargo, that Britain’s Guardian News Service has recently reported warned these people: "Scott Anderson, chief economist at Wells Fargo, is equally pessimistic, describing the bullish views of some market players as "bordering on delusional", but which as their life savings continue to disappear they continue not to heed.

For the final outcome of these events we, perhaps, will have little warning, but, and surely anyone with open eyes can see, the storm clouds gathering on the horizon.

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1091.htm